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>> do you believe that the previous interrogation techniques were immoral? >> senator, i believe that cia officers to whom you referred. >> it's a "yes" or "no" answer. >> senator, i believe that cia did extraordinary work to prevent another attack on this country using the legal tools we were authorized. >> please answer yes or no. do you believe in hindsight that those techniques were immoral? >> senator, what i believe sitting here today is that i support the higher moral standard we have decided to hold ourselves to. >> please answer the question. >> senator, i think i have answered the qu...

Did as president in april 1988 was signed and champion to congress the u.n. convention against torture. that defines torture as anything that's purposely inflict it on someone -- >> laura: gina haspel didn't make the decision, though, john. she was not the architect of waterboarding. george w. bush and the legal consuls offset justice in consultation with congress okayed these techniques in a very limited number of cases at a time where we still believed the next attack was coming. she was overseeing that thailand site in 2002 and kamala harris, i don't know what she was doing in 2002. may be ...