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Members of the union to pay dues unless they voluntarily give them up, and also, collective bargaining rights, a whole range of things that are automatically negotiated into a contract like pensions and health benefits, those will be subject to negotiation. and the unions, of course, are very upset by this, so they put this mesh usual on the ballot tomorrow and it's going to be very, very hotly contested, because if the unions win, this will give them a lot of wind in their sails because they lost the wisconsin battle. bill let me get to that point in a moment. you had wisconsin, you had india...

Bill: see you at 9:20. it's our lead story. there's a lot more to talk about on that. martha. martha: here's the big jobs picture. at the start of the recession, the unemployment rate was 5 percent in the united states, it rose steadily to 6.6% in 2008, this year the jobless number has hovered well above that 9 percent mark, in august, we saw it at 9.6%. bill: still, all eyes in washington on that number there on the economy, but if you look across the country now, plenty of states are holding elections for governor next month, in fact, 37 states in all and there are close races, including ohi...

Themselves. >> i know. >> which one wants to do it. auto apeople don't like each other, they go after each other. you believe it's a political investigation. there are two separate ones. arpaio's lawyers, i understand, will meet with the justice department next week about these documents and we'll keep everybody posted. thanks, we appreciate it. directly ahead, president obama campaigns in ohio against our old pal, john casick who leads in the governor's race there. and we'll look at mr. owe babam statements.

Themselves. >> i know. >> which one wants to do it. auto apeople don't like each other, they go after each other. you believe it's a political investigation. there are two separate ones. arpaio's lawyers, i understand, will meet with the justice department next week about these documents and we'll keep everybody posted. thanks, we appreciate it. directly ahead, president obama campaigns in ohio against our old pal, john casick who leads in the governor's race there. and we'll look at mr. owe babam and we'll look at mr. owe babam statements.

Themselves. >> i know. >> which one wants to do it. auto apeople don't like each other, they go after each other. you believe it's a political investigation. there are two separate ones. arpaio's lawyers, i understand, will meet with the justice department next week about these documents and we'll keep everybody posted. thanks, we appreciate it. directly ahead, president obama campaigns in ohio against our old pal, john casick who leads in the governor's race there. and we'll look at mr. owe babam statements. >> so, ah, your seat? got the mirrors all adjusted? you can see everything ok? st sta...