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In and help them identify these three men? >> they are looking for the public to help them. the public is frequently the best source of tips and clues on a case like this. john is right, to protect the integrity of the investigation, sometimes you want to guard, particularly the details of how this officer was shot, where he was shot, to make sure that tipsters are giving you good information and they're not giving you misleading information to see how it lines up. >> you believe they could know the identities, but they're holding that information back for reasons like that? >> right. i think ...

But also change the culture from a corrections aspect side also. >> it does seem that there needs to be some sort of culture change. and i want to bring in john cuff. john, give us your thoughts on this day and the governor was so elated. >> well, everyone's elated. i mean, i can't say enough. what a great day for law enforcement. this is especially the black eye that it's taken on different occasions. i mean, huge, huge day. i mean, they really did a fantastic job. i can't say enough for all the men and women on the ground. and get beingiting back to whatd art were saying, these perimeters, i...

Investigation, which was transparent. it's behind the scenes. everyone saw the manhunt going on in a densely wooded area. but behind the scenes, there's an investigation going on. there are strategies being laid out to include what happened inside of the prison as far as the escape. but also planning on what's next. because if you think about this, last week, prior to last week, the first cabin being discovered, no one knew for sure that these guys were in the mountains, okay? they could have had a getaway car. but once you establish dna on both of these subjects in that one cabin, that was a ...

Else involved they might have left the key this to go through. >> a lot of up answered questions. >> absolutely. >> hopefully they will get some of the information if he lives and he is willing to talk some of the up answers questions. john cuff, thank you for your insight, stunning development: captures. the map hunt is over. >> andrew cuomo the governor of new york is expected to hold a news conference in one hour from now at 6:45 eastern. rick is at the location where the news conference is expected to take place in an hour at the ski lodge in malone, new york, the town where richard matt w...

Have been caught like this. what is going through their minds? what are their emotions? >> believe it or not, right now he's feeling relief. the amount of stress that he's been under for the last 21, 22 days has been unmeasurable. again, having to do a crime to get everything, stealing, on the run, tired. these are the things that fugitives, you know, it happens when they're caught, they're so relieved, they say i just want to go back to jail. >> and i want to remind everybody that we're waiting for governor cuomo to appear at that podium and give a news conference momentarily. in the meantime...