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Remindering her to be loyal and stay in trump's good graces before she shared with the house committee and these type of calls are the type of tactic that has been used previously when donald trump was under investigation before. for those of us who covered the mueller investigation, the messages to cassidy hutchinson are eerily similar to emails and conversations documented by roberter mueller in the russia investigation. all of them were messages from attorneys connected to trump reaching out to people who might flip on him and become cooperators of mueller. so in 2017, his attorney john dab...

Investigators, he got an email from an attorney working with rudy giuliani who was representing trump at the time, you are loved, sleep well tonight, you have friends in high places. and then paul manafort, the campaign chairman who went to trial and never revealed the full extent of what he knew in 2016, he told rick gates he was in touch with an attorney for trump and while gates was cooperating in the mueller investigation and the message was sit tight, we'll be taken care of it. so each of the episodes these previous criminal investigation and the special council mueller he was looking at ...

That. there are so many constitutional issues that they believe are going to have to be addressed before that that they are not thinking about this possibility at this point. >> jack i'll bring you in. can we gain about how this would play out a bit? let's say president trump refuses to sit down voluntarily for an interview and mueller decided to issue that subpoena? the president would ultimately lose is what was stated. do you agree with that? >> absolutely. i think by the way, the position of john dab and others that they have a fighting chance of prevailing in this courts on that issue i t...

Through the b.s. i don't know if there's been any. wants to cut through the b.s., get the answers to the questions about how long this is going to go on and this is what was most interesting to me. one of my sources says to me, he's going to find out if we have to fight and where this leads. they seem to think that rudy giuliani will be the one to be able to do that where nobody else was able to do that before. >> in some interviews today he talked about his prior relationship with robert mueller. it's not clear to me how a prior relationship with mueller would impact an on going investigation...