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Right? is there a thirst or a demand or enough folks there? we saw that debate where warren and sanders went to town on the john delaneys and the steve bullocks. now you've got folks like buttigieg, and i agree klobuchar had a good night. she has a plausible argument on electability. she's a united states senator. is that resonating with voters, or is the biden phenomenon about joe biden fundamentally, right if that people like joe biden, they trust joe biden. they've known him for a long time. that, to me, underlies all the exchanges we saw tonight, and fact that joe biden is content to pass ...

Because they really do view themselves as essentially comrades in arms in this. i really do think they view their vision as a genuine vision that they both share, that they feel they are making an internal party argument for. the question is there space? and this is a big question for the race right now, right? is there space for someone who isn't joe biden to be in there, right? is there a thirst or a demand or enough folks there. we saw that debate where warren and sanders went to town on the john delaneys and the steve bullocks. now you've got folks like pete buttigieg and i agree, amy klob...

Them. marianne williamson. they've hit the donor threshold but zero of the polling. >> john delaneys, michael bennetts. >> not there. not there. >> very interesting. >> in that case -- >> unless three more polls come out. >> and in each of those polls they need to do something they haven't done in a single poll in the last month. so really steyer, maybe gabbard. that's sort of your cut line right now heading into the next debate. >> do you know why steve kornacki is here today? >> because he's amazing. >> because i read the greatest thing ever on my sheet. steve kornacki, the go-to guy for pol...

Corporate money. that's why kamala harris did not have a good record. >> i hear. i'm not saying it is not a metaphor issue for security felt all over this country. but you know this president won't fight you man for plan fighting on politics. i don't get talking on a granular level about plans no one thinks you'll be able to implement way and then you have kamala harris who cannot peick plan and doesn't defend it that well. how does this set up for the general? >> this is a battle of ideas. i love that they're having this debate. i don't mind the john delaneys of the world who say we shouldn't...

I don't get the idea of talking on a level about plans nobody thinks you will be able to implement that way and then you have kamala harris, one of your frontrunners who can't pick a plan and does not pick it. how does it equip you for the general? >> this is a battle of ideas. i love they are having this debate. i don't mind the john delaneys of the world that say we shouldn't do it. at least he is up front about it. democrats have been telling us for 40 years. >> say that and stop that. people are tired of it. >> all of -- >> first you say we are attacking barack obama. >> you were. >> you m...