CNN Impeachment Hearings November 20, 2019 16:11:00
Pence knew, who have been very squirrely about answering these questions here. it was completely devastating for the white house. >> and when you look at two channels, an official diplomatic channel and he, sondland is not an experienced diplomat. he is working with the experienced diplomats. then we learned there is a separate channel. it's the one that matters, it's the president, rudy guiliani and appears to be mike pompeo, that they are working together independent of the experts on ukraine and that it really is more top down. this is what trump cares about. he doesn't care about ukraine. ...
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