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Payment to a tech firm should have been disclosed. joining me now are the authors of that cohen article. love the details. let's start with -- one of the things is they're planning this in 2014/2015 to try to lay the groundwork. what kind of stuff was he up to? >> he got this john gauger, who is a tech consultant who works at liberty university run by jerry fall well jr. and had been doing minor tech tasks for cohen for years. so cohen says hey, i want you to help the boss win this cnbc poll of the most influential business people.

And impeachable offenses threaten to undermine american values and exceed the powers of the president. it's hard to argue that that's what was going on with clinton and the public and the senate rejected it. i'd look back to andrew johnson instead of bill clinton. >> how so? >> that's a president that's very much like trump. he was very aggressive in his relations with congress and he sold the public on a vision of restoring america in johnson's words as a white man's government and he clashed with congress and congress didn't quite know what to do about it. it tried to do all the usual things...

The head of the technology firm showed up at trump tower in 2015 to collect $50,000. he surprised the man, john gauger, by giving him a blue walmart bag containing between 12 and $13,000 in cash. cohen denies that. he said the payments were made by check. he said, what i did, at the direction and for the sole benefit of donald j. trump. i truly regret my blind loyalty to a man who doesn't deserve it. gloria borger, joe marino, back with us on this. what do you make of this, gloria? >> it's kind of an ah dashsauda story, first of all. second, this is a president who

This final act on mueller to arrive as well. >> nia, i'm not done with this "wall street journal" story. i have so much more to say, which is so the man was promised $50,000, okay, to rig the polls that then donald trump the candidate cited at his rallies. look at the polls on winning, look at this, have you seen this latest poll. so they were rigged according to the guy that was going to collect 50,000. he never got that 50,000. all he got was the 12,000 to 13,000 in cash. >> and a glove. >> in a blew walmart bag. however, according to the "wall street journal," michael cohen charged the camp...

Graph. in early 2015, a man who runs a small technology company showed up at trump tower to collect $50,000 for having helped michael cohen, then donald trump's personal lawyer, try to rig online polls in his boss's favor before the presidential campaign. in the trump organization office, mr. cohen surprised the man john gauger by giving him a blue walmart bag in the is the part that alisyn likes containing between $12,000 and $13,000 in cash and a boxing bluff that mr. cohen said had been worn by a brazilian mixed martial arts fighter. a walmart bag to help get online polls. >> that's pretty ...