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Contributor nick campusory and director of progressive programming for sirius xm and serena maxwell and john horowitz. and let's react to congressman meeks. he think the president is a racist and they are talking about if there is no deal for d.r.e.a.m.ers, not voting to fund the government. good idea, bad idea? >> probably a really bad idea. i think bringing in ancillary issues as opposed to dealing with this problem specifically and deal -- because there is a deadline and we have to get this resolved so 800,000 people don't immediately lose their status and find themselves having to move int...

The president since the shutdown. john will join me next. first here is president obama in his own words. >> the message i have for the leaders is very simple. as soon as we get a clean piece of legislation that reopens the government. right now in the house of representatives. >> until after that? >> until we get that done. until we -- make sure that congress allows treasury to pay for things that congress itself already authorized. we are not going to engage in a series of negotiations. >> the president held his ground in an hour-long meeting at the white house with boehner, reid, mcconnell ...

Government or overraising the debt ceiling. >> president obama emphasized while he is going to hold firm, this is not a fight he wants to have. >> as you try to appeal to those other republicans you think you could work with, i wonder about your tone lately. i have heard from you -- an increasing amount of exasperation and edge. even mockery some times. you said one time, recently. keep hoping a lightbulb goes off. it gives the impression -- that you think that your republican opponents are either stupid or nuts? is that what you think? if you think so does it help your cause to let people see...

>> the leaders of the house and senate will head to the white house. >> opportunity for the people to sit in the room. >> mounting across the country. >> this is a political war. >> tea party republicans have taken tight a whole new level. >> tea party driven. >> members of the tea party. >> cruz led. >> they wanted to shut down government. >> am i exasperated. i am exasperated. >> so much at stake. >> who need the fda? >> no biggy. >> send me your drugs. i'll test them. >> day two of government shutdown. >> day two of the government shutdown. >> this could drag on for weeks. ♪ ♪ >> day tw...

>> the does talk. >> john harwood. thank you again. congratulations on the interview, john. >> thank you, alex. joining me former congressman from ohio, steve latourette, president of main street partnership and msnbc executive editor richard wolf author of "the message, the reselling of president obama." steve, i want to go to you. new reporting from national reviews, robert costa. the headline is, boehner to gop. grand bargain is in the works. news that john boehner has been talking to his caucus about a "grand bargain" that may include, cpi, delay in obama care. bigger, reforms around earne...