Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130106:19:01:00
>> but you said that was a strategy, that's what you learned. i want to come back to the question. it's a hostage that's worth ransoming, the debt ceiling of the united states government. is that the strategy that you would ransom that here again to force the kind of spending cuts that you think are necessary? >> it's a shame that we have to use whatever leverage we have in congress to get the president to deal with the biggest problem confronting our future. and that's our excessive spending. >> but you're conceding that that may be the strategy this time? >> well, what the strategy ought to ...
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