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Struggling. one of the questions i have, is where the pope comes down in this debate, and how aware he is that all of this is going on in some kind of huge struggle around the closed doors of the vatican. >> he's aware of it now certainly. and he's probably very sad from the people i have spoken to who are there, he is very sad, you're being betrayed by someone, a father of three, this is not a priest, it's a layman, a father of three working you every single day and betrays them for one thing or another, whether it's money, who knows what is exactly involved. he is working closely with the au...

Newsroom" on a tuesday that feels lick like a monday. i'm martha maccallum. bill: the pope's butler is under arrest accused of leaking secret church documents. few at the vatican believe that he at the end had worked alone. martha: what is next? joining me now is father john jonathan morris. he lived at the vat kin. thanvatican. thanks for joining us. >> just when you thought you saw it all. martha: a butler close to pope benedict leaked some of his papers and may have been working for somebody, right. >> he was one working very closely with him in the papal household. there is somebody taking...