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Better life. >> jonathan swann, how are, how is this going to be looked at inside the white house? we know there has been some conflict between john kely, kirsten nielson, in the event there was a claim that a migrant attempted to assail a member of cbp. and john kelly and kifristen nielson seemed to think there was no authority for this kind of thing, but the president ultimately won the day. >> kirsten nielson has had this from almost the moment she was sworn in. before she was sworn in trump started to rant she was weak on the border and he was hearing from people on tv from ann coulter and...

Well she be coming back to the white house, hope hicks? i've seen a report about that. >> i don't know, but i love hope. she's great. i hope that maybe -- i've been hearing little things like that. >> to both of you, i'll let you respond to this alex, first. there is the report, "vanity fair" had it in an article with the headline saying that she could be the next chief of staff. what are you hearing about that prospect or any other role for hope hicks in the white house? >> no one seems to leave trump's orbit entirely, they might be kicked to the outer reaches, but they continue to mine tan c...

How do you respond to general kelly saying in reply to this report, it's total bs? >> well, i think that's not surprising. as you were showing earlier, where rex tillerson did not deny that he called the president a moron. that got under the president's skin and the relationship never repaired after that. you know, john kely, all of our reporter points to john kelly and president trump kind of growing very tired of each other and not just that, but you know we want to look at nine months in, kelly was brought in as this disciplinarian who was going to bring order to where there was chaos and h...

What are you hearing, now what hope hicks is gone, who could calm him down, what's the vibe in the white house right now? as david and joe just said, as a critical decision is being made about what to do in syria? >> i think your point about hope hicks is exactly right. this is his first major personal crisis without somebody that he trusts, you should think of hope hicks a little bit more like a family member, somebody he could speak to and have an impact on the president's emotional state. she's missing, we know there's been a lot of turmoil with this president and his chief of staff, john k...

Think, but wait a second, the guy abused two ex-wives, what are we talking about here? >> it was not that long ago either in the 2000s. >> sorry, before he worked at the white house, which is the most irrelevant and absurd point. he's an abuser then, he is an abuser now, so, look, he's not in an easy spot here. he is still choosing to work for this guy, but, ultimately, this is not about fbi process or background checks. this is about whether john kely and donald trump think it's okay to have an abuser in the white house, an they do. >> i want to play the sound i referred to earlier. sound nu...