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For people who are mike pence's friends from congress and to steer the president away from some of his own instincts about which candidates to back for speaker of the house, governor of states. we didn't see this with dick cheney. >> he's really sort of marshalling the troops on the congressional fields. people he has direct knowledge of. he is playing some favorites as alex points out. he is doing some things that a president might typically do, leading the party, really paying attention to the midterm elections, in the background is he a leader in waiting wh it's 2024, some place else. >> an...

As with all things trumpian, it goes from the petty like snatching invites to speak to the nra to the more consequential decisions about staff and political appointees. talk about what you wrote today. >> that's right. well, we've seen a couple of occasions like you mentioned, both the nra and davos which was originally pence to go there. trump saw the guest list and decided i should do this and bunted pence off the schedule. leak-- like you mentioned, that's petty stuff. but there are more substantive moves. pence brought in john learner. the white house got wind of this, found out he had sig...

Clipton could come pa clinton could compartmentalize it. he didn't talk about it every day. it brings me to the russian sanction decisions. is he getting the same benefit of the doubt that he was getting before after this round of rush sh -- russian news? at what point does this start to worry some republicans about -- >> i think the same conservative foreign policy experts that were reassured are concerned about this emerging rift. it is always john learner who had been very briefly appointed to serve. the president, trump was angry at that b with and now he is only serving ambassador haley.