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On their backs, nor others booted and spurred them to ride them by the grace of god. men cannot be ruled the way horses can be ruled, because they're not the same thing, and the laws of nature, nature is a very rich word, and it means that each kind of thing has an essence of its own, it is entitled to protection and the rights that go with that essence. mark: this is crucially important, isn't it? we're really the only country that was founded on these ideas, on these principles, on these truisms. as a matter of fact, john lock, was the most important philosopher on the revolutionary period, ...

Tweeting out rediscovering americanism has now been released. one of the things in your book, mark, that's so good it gets away from politics and talks about the founders and foundation and talks about what went into the declaration of independence. hey, john lock, why are we american? what makes us so unique? go back to what the founding fathers were built off of when they constructed the country. what did you discover or what are you trying to relay in this book? >> well, it's very good question. the answer is this: we ignore academics and intellectualists at our own peril because it is they...

Into the declaration and then went into the constitution. and, for that, you would want to start with the greeks. you would want to go to the romans. you would do john lock. you would do the old testament, john locke, old testament, new testament and have a pretty good summary of how we got to where we are. if that's what you want to teach i'm all for it. >> i would pick it up with the 18th century and the british throwing off the king and basically becoming a democracy and then pick it up because that's the link. you know what i'm talking about here. if you bring in -- if you say the word jes...

A law to do it. okay. >> this was not an accidental statement by nancy pelosi. she said it several times before. last year around july 4th. it gets to the crux of what this country is, what makes it different. one of the godfather of the founders of this country was john lock. they used him as the basis for a lot of their thinking. he said, "the end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom." does obamacare do that, preserve and enlarge freedom? >> certainly not. obamacare and the founders would never have passed obamacare and be struggling in their graves looki...

That's what my grandpa always said. and also this guy he ripped this whole thing off from the tv show "lost." >> really? >> john lock reunites with his long lost dad and his dad pretends to be friendly and turns out he is on dialysis and gets his son to give him the kidney and once he gets the kidney he wants nothing else to do with him. >> same thing is happening on "shame less." >> are you doing a lot with this story. >> it was a stlee-part -- a three-part "love boat." the doc gave his kidney to the bartender and he ate it. by the way, she says she wants to give it to someone else, but who w...