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Knew about judges, i knew about prosecutors had protection, but we didn't make a big deal of it, because we didn't want to give the satisfaction to the people who were the perceived threat they had disrupted lives, even without doing anything. >> right. >> on the other hand, that district attorney's office in kaufman county, the building under protection, the d.a. being guarded. that certainly makes perfect sense, because someone clearly has targeted that office and the people in it. >> incredible. john, thank you so much, john mill e jeff toobin, as well. rutgers' head basketball coach has ...

Other prosecutors being killed, the connection that was being made, particularly in the media to the aryan brotherhood. the pressure on his family that i think he went to the boss and said, maybe it's time for somebody else to take this case on. where it went wrong is he sent an e-mail to 34 defense lawyers, notifying them of that, and it leaked to the media. >> but this is really unusual. i mean, john and i both know -- assistant u.s. attorneys who were under protection for a long time, the late charles rose, a friend of both of ours lived with this sort of thing for -- i think over a year. i...

It was the effect that the protective detail, the presence, this looming threat, the news of other prosecutors being killed, the connection that was being made, particularly in the media to the aryan brotherhood. the pressure on his family that i think he went to the boss and said, maybe it's time for somebody else to take this case on. where it went wrong is he sent an e-mail to 34 defense lawyers, notifying them of that, and it leaked to the media. >> but this is really unusual. i mean, john and i both know -- assistant u.s. attorneys who were under protection for a long time, the late charl...

Attorney who recused himself as a professional prosecutor, very -- looked on very well in the office. and i think where that went off the rails is he was put under the protection of united states marshals. and i think that it wasn't a threat so much. you were an assistant u.s. attorney. prosecutors get used to that. it was the effect that the protective detail, the presence, this looming threat, the news of other prosecutors being killed, the connection that was being made, particularly in the media to the aryan brotherhood. the pressure on his family that i think he went to the boss and said,...

Reporting and talking about this group in texas gives them probably exactly what they want, which is, you know, in their eyes, street cred. >> right. and i think that's happened here, especially with this withdrawal. >> and it was not publicly announced when judges or prosecutors had protection. i mean, that was certainly the rule that i knew about, that i knew about judges, i knew about prosecutors had protection, but we didn't make a big deal of it, because we didn't want to give the satisfaction to the people who were the perceived threat they had disrupted lives, even without doing anythin...