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Just imply that. >> you know, he wanted to claim credit for a campaign promise. >> i see. >> he wanted to do something i think to help energize his base in part, yet it left them feeling completely i think unfulfilled. you know, i thought one of the most remarkable lines from that speech last night, chris, was him saying we've met our responsibility in iraq. >> yeah. >> can you imagine if as a candidate he was making that case, you know, the moral responsibility borne by the united states? sure, you know. violence is down from its peak during the civil war, but does anybody really think that l...

>> but of all that has transpired there and then to sort of assert, well, yes, we now have fulfilled our responsibility as americans. >> you know, i'm a huge fan of the writing of john padora like everybody else, one of the gifted writers out there, but he basically saluted the president last night and he's pretty much of a hawkish fellow. here's president obama pivoting from the iraq war to the economy. now maybe this is the purpose of the speech last night to say we're now going to have a peace dividend and we've got to use it. well, let's listen. >> unfortunately, over the last decade we've...

Most remarkable lines from that speech last night, chris, was him saying we've met our responsibility in iraq. >> yeah. >> can you imagine if as a candidate he was making that case, you know, the moral responsibility borne by the united states? sure, you know. violence is down from its peak during the civil war, but does anybody really think that lives of iraqis are all that much better? i mean, sure they are not living under the thumb of a dictator. >> i know. >> but of all that has transpired there and then to sort of assert, well, yes, we now have fulfilled our responsibility as americans. ...

Socked, too. that was an amazing admission for him to say to that. your thoughts. >> i agree with you. the fact that john boehner is out there saying we are asking the rich to pay more in taxes is not something they ever would have done in 2011. if you remember, math by details in the sitdown between boehner and obama last year. boehner's office wouldn't write the number 800 billion in its initial offer to the white house because they didn't want other house republicans to see that. the fact that that figure is on the table and boehner is taking to the air waives to say, you know who's going t...

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