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Like jerrold nadler. what does jerrold nadler, on the west side, oh, his election was rigged in a district that's 80% democratic? really? that guy who ran that ad, jim marchand, has a good chance of becoming the next retiree of state of nevada. a cnn poll this month found 46% supporting him, compared to 40% for democrats cisco aguilar. a difference within the margin of error, of course, so basically tied. but man, no one has been covering this race on the other tight races in nevada like the nevada independent, which is, of course, run by john rawlston, jon joins me now. john, that marchand ha...

About republicans to vote, and they both join me now. john, let me start with you on this sort of dean heller trajectory which is to me just as perfect microcosm intel up the republican party over the last five years as you can tell. how do you see it? >> i think you're absolutely right, and let me just say up front, chris, that your intro here is finally settled the question of whether my state or mark state is the most embarrassing and has the craziest stuff. nevada winds over florida. i mean, having said that, i have to tell you, dean heller's case which you made very well there, chris, is ...

Voted who said -- it was that guy. another woman who sits was legally blunt and said that someone else had voted for her, she did know who. and this was an example of fraud. and she stood by him at a press conference. one press was -- her story didn't quite lineup, and then she backed off of it. so both cases, he had this acne election fraud bomb and now there's a general election coming up and if you listen to some of the more centrist voices in his party, or some of the less mug of voices in the republican party, they're saying, look, this is going to be a problem in the general election. no...

But you can't operationalize your behavior based on this obviously stupid ludicrous lie because we need you to vote as if the machines work, which we know they do, but we're gonna keep lying to you. you get it? >> this is going to be a lingering problem for the party of trump. the big lie is the new liknes test, republicans believe that they have to be objectively pro coup, or some risk at -- what they need to rally them to vote republican anyway. politics is full of ideological contradictions but, i'm not sure how sustainable this particular one is. john rawlston is the ceo and founder of the...

Keep lying to you. you get it? >> this is going to be a lingering problem for the party of trump. the big lie is the new liknes test, republicans believe that they have to be objectively pure -- pro coup, or some risk at -- what they need to rally them to vote republican anyway. politics is full of ideological contradictions but, i'm not sure how sustainable this particular one is. john rawlston is the ceo and founder of the nevada independent on a expert in all things politics, and mark caputo is a reporter for nbc news digital. he just republican -- adam axle pushing the big lie. about the 2...