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That's what she's trying to do right now. get that death penalty off the table and plead guilty to life in prison. >> it's interesting, the judge at this point is the from california, brought in because all the federal judges in arizona recused themselves because of the murder of john roll. is there any sense whether an actual trial would be held in arizona? >> yeah, well, at this point it came up today a little bit in terms of the change in venue, there's an early change. we're in phoenix today, right away, in tucson, every judge in tucson said i'm not going to hear his first court appearance...

Will say, if you are in a position like this, this is the attorney you want. she's been called a one-woman dream team. she's sort of quiet, she doesn't give interviews, pretty reclusive, those i've spoken to who know her say she's on the top of her game. >> do you think there will be a plea deal? >> i think she's probably trying to get the death penalty off the table. i think the government is going to seek the death penalty in a case like this. that's what she's trying to do right now. get that death penalty off the table and plead guilty to life in prison. >> it's interesting, the judge at t...

Have. >> do you think there will be a plea deal? >> i think she's probably trying to get the death penalty off the table. i think the government is going to seek the death penalty in a case like this. that's what she's trying to do right now. get that death penalty off the table and plead guilty to life in prison. >> it's interesting, the judge at this point is the from california, brought in because all the federal judges in arizona recused themselves because of the murder of john roll. is there any sense whether an actual trial would be held in arizona? >> yeah, well, at this point it came u...

They probably have gathered 5 whatever you want to call them he was looking at in the days preceding the attack. >>shepard: so, you are saying years and years just on this, forget attacking -- taking on the rest. >>judge napolitano: the whole thing could go on for decades but before a trial for murder occurs in the u.s., the average time from the killing to the trial is 2 1/2 years and this is complicated by joint jurisdiction, state of arizona has jurisdiction, the federal government has jurisdiction, a federal official was murder murdered, and all these things have to be ironed out and you h...

The news says 35 videos from his computer and they interviewed 250, or so, people. that is a lot of folks. >>judge napolitano: they have 250 f.b.i. agents investigating this. there has not been a murder in modern american history with this many f.b.i. agents. what are they doing? trying to compile for the government background information about him from the day he was born up to the moment he did whatever he did two weeks ago. and that requires a huge amount of manpower. and, then, whatever they compile for themselves they have to give to the defense counsel so that she and her experts can loo...