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Relationship to terminal two and is that where all of this unfolded, as we've been reporting? >> honestly, i couldn't tell you what terminal we're in. we're at the baggage claim area in delta. all the luggage is still down there. it was baggage carousel number three. >> john, again, i know this is -- this is all traumatizing, but to the best of your ability, when the man started to open fire inside the terminal there, did it seem as if he was targeting someone or did it seem as if he was just looking to shoot anyone? >> that's what was terrifying. it was clear he was just shooting anyone. that...

Together. he did reload his gun and started firing a whole batch of shots at people. you know, at one point in time i saw something by my head. how we knew it was over, we stayed down. people stayed down for an extended period of time. finally, when the police came in, that's when we got up. >> 13 people shot, four people dead, nine people wounded. again, this is according to our sources. this is a number that as our justice correspondent pete williams told us moments ago. these are numbers we expect, that we expect will change over the course of the afternoon and into the night. we're talking...

Certainly not a police presence with guns drawn or holstered. we are being told if we do leave, we're going to be -- everybody is going to have to do it before they get on the plane, baggage clearance with the s.w.a.t. team before we get on the plane. so, hence, you know, they're taking all security measures. i think everyone feels a little bit better that we were assured by security that all doors have been secured and no one is getting in and no one is getting out from our area. >> okay. bob foster, bob on the tarmac, ft. lauderdale. bob also an eyewitness to the shooting that happened just ...

To the ground. i turned and looked and the gunman was in the center hallway, just outside of -- just next to baggage carousel number one and two, in between there. he was holding a black handgun and he was shooting randomly into the crowd. he was shooting people in the head. there were elderly people that were shot and killed. there were two people to my left and two people to my right that were shot. and several of them died. >> john, as you watch this unfold, could you make out whether this man was saying anything while he open fire? >> when i looked over at him, he said nothing. he said not...

Called 911 just seconds after the first shot was fired. called and let them know what was going on. >> he walked over and was right in our area, feet from us, shooting people. i didn't know if i'd be shot, if my wife or my mother-in-law would either. >> john, to be clear here, everyone that was with you, your wife, your mother-in-law, they're fine? >> they're fine. my wife actually administered aid to one of the gentleman who was shot in the head. and he told her he was on coumadin and she applied pressure to him. my mother-in-law used her sweater to -- [ inaudible ] on the man next to him. an...