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Responsible for funding biomedical research which is one of the great glories of american science, and i think we should retain our faith in them to investigate themselves. fully fairly and lay out what happened there. they're not the villain here. they seem to have been, you know, a party to what may not be a terrible oversight if indeed virus did indeed escape from the lab. but then i think we can reasonably look to them to try to -- find out what on earth happened put things right and make sure it doesn't happen again. mark: let's hope they start that process relatively soon it has been oh ...

Who are risk horrific happened shouldn't they have some responsibility to try to get to the bottom of it including saying look we're trying to get the data that communist regime in china won't give it to us? >> mark i think that's an excellent point. the national institute of health even more so and media -- surely had a duty to investigate the origin of the virus as carefully as it could to lay out role many it and explain why it continued funding research even during a u.s. government moratorium on funding. and there are lots of questions that i wish the nih had addressed a year ago, and bee...

Illogicality because to you create a dangerous coronavirus in bsl2 your safety precautions may be inadequate and it may well escape. mark: so in this lab -- the wuhan lab, they're working on viruses. i'm putting this in marks plain english viruses that could become more killer viruses more lethal viruses to human beings. the level of safety in this lab one, two, three, four being highest is a two, and i want to ask you a couple of other questions related to this, sir. who was peter dazic. >> has an important role in this story he's the president of an organization in new york called the ecohea...