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Apprentice." is this one of those situations where we are talking about it in a bubble and it's shocking. but, again, this is something john q. six-pack in michigan or ohio or north carolina, trump supporter, saying this is perhaps much ado about nothing. >> of all the sort of stories out there about potential conflicts of interest with donald trump as president i'm not sure this one meets the test there. here is an example. barack obama eight years ago. he had "dreams of my father" his autobiography. he's collecting royalties on that. it's something he created, president obama did. this is a ...

The press" this morning. let's take a listen and talk about it on the other side. here it is. >> was the response correct? could it have been better? why weren't things at least tried or revved up to be tried? those are important questions. and then, afterwards, how could you change talking points 12 times from what seems to be relatively right to what seems to be completely wrong? >> is this, esther, a beltway conversation, or is this something that john q. six-pack really cares about sitting at his house in kansas? >> i think it's absolutely about a question. i think there's different realit...