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Argument as we go into this process. >> and he's expressed respect for nancy pelosi the last few months. >> julian epstein because you were the judicial counsel during the last impeachment this country went through, what would your advice be in terms of the scope. they're drafting them now. do they keep it narrow? do they stick with ukraine? do they broaden it out and include the potential obstructive acts laid out in the mueller report? >> i think they should clearly keep it narrow to the ukraine matter and keep it on what i think was a bribery or shakedown scheme as one article and an obstru...

Remember, she came to this reluctantly. really came to this notion of impeachment reluctantly. the pressure was on her by a lot of democrats, by the base to not give up their majority. not just say, okay, we have a majority but we're not doing anything to hold the president accountable. she's taken methodically taken her caucus through the process. they are at a point now where she has to, you know, check in with her and her caucus and with the country because this is so much about public opinion which, if you look at the polls, if you see where the caucus is and, more importantly, maybe the r...

To inherit. so they need to take this seriously and act now. >> and basically everyone in the gop has been recruited. yeah, everyone's been -- he's recruited the entire party. >> you know, picking up on john's point, if, joy, you were talking to me this morning the way we heard donald trump talk, i would ask if you were taking any medication and advise you not to operate any heavy machinery. >> wow. >> he has taken the art of lying, some people calling it s bsing to a new level. even his fans and supporters cheer him on when he gets away with his b.s.

End of that statement he should have said, thank you, president obama, because truly what happened is that it was because of the priorities of the previous administration that we saw a five-point drop in unemployment among the black population of the united states. and that trend has continued. but, frankly, actually last year by only 1%. so i'm sure that had a lot to do with the response by people who actually know what happened and what led to it. >> i feel like one of the things i'm kind of hearing you say and tell me if i'm inferring improperly, but you don't trust president trump and so y...

It million folks that's bigger than what president obama offered. >> i'm asking what can he -- >> you're proving my point, gloria. we now bank the huge concession and now what else is he going to do? no. he made a big concession. >> let me ask you a question. is it -- what exactly is the -- who is the concession to? dave, dave, just a second. who is the concession to exactly to say that young people who were brought here not of their own volition, who don't know any other country, should not be -- especially because the vast majority of them are big contributors here now and have enormous pote...