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Catnip to a lot of their constituents. a lot of these republican members aren't really afraid of whatever democratic challenges they get. they're actually afraid of getting primary challenges. because they've done too much. >> it goes both ways though. >> exactly. about 83% of the house doesn't have to worry about the other party. most of them have to worry about their own party. but these tea party types want to -- they want to get rid of speaker boehner, they ought to be careful what they wish for because i'm not sure that right now the house republican caucus is even governable. >> jonathan...

Around entitlement reform and it is probably some truth to that. that being said, this president has shown a real willingness to compromise and to find common ground in places particularly on issues that are prevalent in congress today from social issues and economic issues of immigration across the board to how we create jobs. the fact that republicans won't even bring an alternative to the floor -- and i think your point, jonathan's point, they can repeal -- they have every right to try to repeal a health care law but you have to offer an alternative because it is an acknowledgement that we ...

Have been outlined before. when the american public sits back, and if nothing is done and we go into another hostage situation at the beginning of the fall over the debt ceiling, i don't see the blame falling on democratic shoulders. i think that what is happening. in the shohouse is so obvious t the american public, do you still think republicans have leverage to gain by this behavior? >> it is hard to say. i don't think john boehner thinks so. i think john boehner wants to get out of it but i think the media often oversensationalizes. but here i think that they are undersensationalizing it. ...

Which is real bold, i will quote, jonathan chat who says paul ryan's budget even while employing fanciful projections didn't balance the budget until 2040. moving that up by 17 years changes the plausible level from level union corn to level unicorn being ridden by santa claus. your thoughts on that? >> there's a larger point. have republicans -- i'm not suggesting they're not embracing austerity anymore, but there's an acknowledgment here. we're talking about there used to be a time they wanted a balanced budget the year after, next year, the year after. i do think there's been a fundamental ...

To capitol hill and actually be an intimate player on all the policy issues. >> jonathan chat and john nichols, thank you for trying to lift the veil of mystery over paul ryan. we look forward to speaking to you again soon. >> look forward to it. coming up, the susan g. komen foundation faced blowback when it joined the fight against pl planned parenthood. now late tonight comes news that the group is making changes. and the war on women didn't do romney any favors with female voters, but rush limbaugh isn't putting down his battle ax. that's coming up next. and what kind of family organ...