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To say, we believe there's a perjury here and we would like you to investigate that. so there's a real question about whether or not the department of justice would pursue it. i think what's critically important and ryan makes this point in the just security piece is when you get chased by guard dogs up a tree, you'll stand on even a thin branch. and it's really a very thin branch to simply say, i said no quid pro quo, i don't want a quid pro quo because, you know, it's like the mob boss who says i'm not telling you to kill him. >> right. >> but go do the right thing. >> yes. >> it's like that...

People don't do conventions in doral, they go there to play golf and visit the bedbugs. >> a lot of bedbugs. >> a lot of bedbugs. but once again, the real value, the real travesty is the millions of dollars of media impressions they will get. >> david mentioned the most interesting point of all on the doral thing. there are only two presidential suites and there are going to be eight leaders of foreign countries. so you're going to have at least eight leaders of foreign countries trying to get into one of those suites by implicating joe biden, it's a cash grab in there. >> and we do know if pu...

Mediocre review and they are nervous. they're nervous how he'll hold up against a far more scrutiny and far tougher questions on thursday. >> considering cameras are not allowed in federal courtrooms, it was certainly a precedent that federal judge sought out a camera in this case. our thanks. phil rucker, carol lee, jonathan la her lemire. really appreciate tonight's conversation. coming up, the president of the united states clearly taken aback when the audience laughed at him at the u.n. he later insists that was the plan all along. and later, as rod rosenstein's job hangs in the balanc...