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Lifted as a result. i'll all this as turkey and russia agree on a plan to patrol the border and most of northern syria. with russian forces moving into the territory, once controlled by the united states and its kurdish allies. jonathan spire is director of the middle east center for reporting and analysis. welcome, good to see you again. >> thank you very much. paul: big success the president says but success for who? i mean, who are the big winners in your view? >> who are the big winners. i would say the main winners are the president of syria, above all, president vladimir putin of russia ...

Aggression. if someone rises up to kill you, kill him first. jonathan spire is a journalist and middle east analyst. he directs the middle east center for reporting and analysis. welcome, mr. spire. good to have you here. so you wrote this week that the israel/iran war is already underway. what's happening on the ground? >> well, as you were describing a moment ago, what's happening on the ground is an ongoing israeli campaign to attempt to undermine and prevent what i would describe or what is often described as the entrenchment and consolidation by the iranians on a military infrastructure i...

Aggression. if someone rises up to kill you, kill him first. jonathan spire is a journalist and middle east analyst. he directs the middle east center for reporting and analysis. welcome, mr. spire. good to have you here. so you wrote this week that the israel/iran war is already underway. what's happening on the ground? >> well, as you were describing a moment ago, what's happening on the ground is an ongoing israeli campaign to attempt to undermine and prevent what i would describe or what is often described as the entrenchment and consolidation by the iranians on a military infrastructure i...