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Important, there were two channels, they were not official channels, this is the run through the united states senate, john brennan, senator harry reid and dianne feinstein's staff, that operation is going on through former staffers. second channel, i'm not talking about official intelligence channels, the second channel was the state department. diplomats and bureaucrats running intelop against president trump being run through victoria nuland and jonathan whiner. they have acknowledged the role. mark: we haven't gotten close to the bottom line. >> with all of that at the same time, there was...

Important, there were two channels, they were not official channels, this is the run through the united states senate, john brennan, senator harry reid and dianne feinstein's staff, that operation is going on through former staffers. second channel, i'm not talking about official intelligence channels, the second channel was the state department. diplomats and bureaucrats running intelop against president trump being run through victoria nuland and jonathan whiner. they have acknowledged the role. mark: we haven't gotten close to the bottom line. >> with all of that at the same time, there was...

Dossier. we do know some of the names. we talked a little bit about it yesterday, cody shearer who is a friend of the clintons. he had apparently been a journalist for a while. then there is a guy who is actually currently working at the state department. this guy's name is jonathan whiner. he worked under hillary rodham clinton. sea special un enjoy for libya. and friend of clinton worked in the clinton white house. the three of they had fed stuff to steele he put in this other one was the backup plan, dossier two the backup plan if dossier one didn't work. ainsley: it's unbelievable. steve: ...