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Judge Christopher Lopez is expected to decide Friday whether to convert the Infowars host's bankruptcy case from Chapter 11 to Chapter 7 liquidation.

Question to you on this topic is, does it look like it's somewhat working when these focus like alex jones are hauled into court and mr. dobbs under legal threat commits what looks like journalism. >> it it does have an effect, and i think the jones case really was a hammer and a lap in the face for a lot of these folks. i think the fact that, you know, the dobbs set you just played occurred the way it did, also now will be part of the evidence. so if you knew that about this voting company, what was different about dominion? since they're in the same space and operating in the same environmen...

Him going on and telling his audience the lie he didn't believe was true, it becomes very, very hard for the court or bodies that are investigating this to say, hmm, there's nothing here. there's no there there. welsh there is a there there, which is why this case is proceeding the way it is, why it has not been thrown out, why dominion is being very clear about the facts that it has, and it's interesting to see that the lawyer's doubling down to say, we stand by what we've said. well, you don't have the facts on your side. you have to produce at least the evidence to back up the allegations t...

Michael steele is back with us and we have been covering more than one story. you may think, oh, we just talked about the proud boys case. another conviction today. totally separate. one of the most infamous and instant lee reviled images. richard barnett, convicted today. guilty on all eight counts. this is the image of a once arrogant trespasser now convicted. the jury deliberations were short. the case was pretty easy legally because of the undeniable evidence of the trespassing.

So, the universe is such that there are very finite group of people who play at that level in the voting, in the electoral space. dominion, aratech. and so the reality of it is, those players, when you go after both of them or one of them, it does have a ripple effect. and that's what you saw with the dobbs interview. that ripple effect was oh, crap. let's not go too far with this, because there are consequences. a billion dollars plus is a lot to choke on. they'll beat their breast a little bit at this stage, but i think their lawyers will grow silent when they get in the negotiating room and...