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That the u.s. tried to make sure that china understands the isolations it could face if it's seen as helping russia in its endeavors in ukraine. >> yes. all of this conflict needed with the chinese involvement to. josh, thank you for your reporting. appreciate it. my next guest was ambassador to ukraine from 2003 to 2006, john herbs is not director of the atlantic council. ambassador, thank you for joining me on the show tonight. what do you make of this reporting to nbc news that just confirmed that russia has just asked china for military equipment and other support? >> your correspondent go...

About foreign fighters at the same time as we're getting reporting that they want to send syrian fighters into ukraine to fight. cal perry, thank you for your time. stay safe. now, to new reporting from nbc news, the u.s. has reason to believe that russia has asked china for military aid and other support following the start of its unprovoked war in ukraine. that, according to three u.s. officials, joining me now from pollen is nbc news josh laden. josh, what more do you know about this requests from the kremlin to the chinese? >> well, many, we know that this request came after russia began i...