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Before it occurred. nbc news is reporting today that the special prosecutor now wants to interview someone who helped arrange that meeting. the special prosecutor has requested an interview with the russian pop star who sent e-mails to donald trump jr. to arrange that meeting in trump tower. his american lawyer told nbc news conversations are ongoing about a potential interview and that it is, quote, unclear how this will play out. which, as of tonight, could serve as the headline for the status of everything. still under investigation by the special prosecutor. unclear how this will play out....

>> yeah. and certainly the only person who has done it repeatedly and in public to say nothing of what he might have done in private that we don't know about. i guess one question i would have about this whole stage of the investigation is whether the president could in fact be named, if there is a conspiracy alleged in the final analysis by mueller, if he could be named as an unindicted coconspirator as richard nixon was years ago? is that a possibility to joyce or mia? >> i think to joyce's point, which is an important one, this does depend on how the department of justice looks at this inst...

My view would be an admission of guilt, particularly on an obstruction charge, which is why they don't want obstruction as part of the interview. that part i believe. if there is an interview, they don't want any conversation about obstruction. i think it actually points to something that i think i will disagree with joyce on. it is one thing to say he's a subject, that donald trump is a subject of an investigation. subjects can become targets. the fact they have said he's a subject doesn't mean he can become a target, which is the very reason why they don't want him to testify. i think you're...

The foreign governments that have patronized the trump hotel about four blocks from the white house, kuwait, philippines, malaysia and romania all have done so, and patronize it because of the president's association with it. we should also say the state of maine has similarly done business with the hotel. so, it's not just foreign governments but i do want to get to nbc's reporting about michael cohen. that he's willing to tell that the president knew in advance about the trump tower meeting in june 2016. if this is corroborated, joyce, would this be cohen flipping on trump? is this what flip...

A new federal court ruling is threatening to blow the lid off of president trump's financials. the judge is allowing an emoluments case to proceed involving the washington, d.c. hotel. the lawsuit alleges president trump is violating the constitution by doing business with foreign and state governments while in office. joining me now, joyce nance, an msnbc contributor. a welcome voice on this broadcast. thank you for being here, joyce. we have a president who has held his financials very close to the vest to say the least. what are the chance that this lawsuit sheds some light on them? >> this...