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Loudly other people protest. you and i both know that some people vote strictly on the basis of what's best for them politically, not what's right. that happened in this situation as well. and it can be pretty easy to vote your conscience when your conscience and your party are in sync. but when they're not, whether you're a red state democrat or a blue state republican, you should still be able to vote your conscience. and if you can't, well, we'll never be anything other than a polarized, partisan mess. by the way, just as you're entitled to vote your conscience, protesters are entitled to h...

Push ahead, push ahead. keep pushing it forward. and that strategy seems to have worked for them. and, you know, i think that the president feels -- we've heard him talk about it publicly. we've seen him tweet about it, that this fight has just galvanized his base, has really energized core republicans to feel that, you know, brett kavanaugh was treated unfairly and that all this was really was a proxy fight over him, donald trump, and that he won that fight. and i think he's going to point to the confirmation vote tomorrow as proof of that. and on the other side, i think we see that democrats...

Just as what was the corroborating evidence when it came to christine blasey ford. but then after his performance, there was a major concern about partisanship. >> yeah. >> and you think that was fair. >> yeah. well, there's a deeper concern of mine, and that's what's happened to the court. it's -- this is so damaged, the court. it's damaged the judicial selection process. it may be a bit glib. i think the senate should go back and revisit the 60-vote requirement because that forces senators to work better together. it forces the president to more likely nominate somebody that's going to get 6...

And today i think it got even more divided. >> well, i'm hoping that we should be unified in disgust with the process. they don't get to have disgust with the process. my one pushback on murkowski and collins on the others, who was saying this was bad, you made it bad. you allowed it to stay bad. you participated in something that was bad. fix it. that's your challenge. we judge whether it's good or bad. you're supposed to make it better. they have to do that because we can't survive another one of these procedurally. the outcome is what it is, man. the outcome is what it is. >> you and i both...

You got to call them as you see them. and some are pretty conservative. bork, i voted against. justice roberts i voted for. i thought he was a little more moderate conservative. in this case i think i would have voted against judge kavanaugh. all things considered, i think he's a little too partisan. >> yeah, and that's what many people said. they were -- the concern was that they were looking at this just as what was the corroborating evidence when it came to christine blasey ford. but then after his performance, there was a major concern about partisanship. >> yeah. >> and you think that was...