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Told about it? my colleague has scrubbed all the transcripts to get the answer to that, and the answer is according to donald trump jr., he never talked to his father about this eeth berry or after. and he testifies that he believed his father learned about this meeting when it was reported in the news media. that's hugely significant because, as you can imagine, a lot of people have a lot of trouble believing that, frankly. but donald trump jr. is locked into that story now. he was not under oath, but it's a crime to lie to congress. what he's saying is he never talked to his father about wha...

Significant information you're being told? >> talking about whether people, listening there have been questions about paul manafort and whether he was paying attention, he was on his phone allot during the meeting it had been reported. now rob goldstone is saying in these transcripts that jared kushner actually seemed to grow more and more angry. i think the word is more and more infuriated as this meeting went along. and that's when the russians did not in fact deliver what tlerve from team trump thought they were going to deliver. >> and manafort did not answer questions to this committee. >...

At the republican national convention later that summer when it was changed in favor of russia? what communications were there between the russian government and top level officials with the trump administration? those are the kinds of questions that the prosecutors are going to ask following this information. >> i want to bring in jeremy and alexis and josh because as we're looking forgive me for checking my iphone but this is how we're getting information coming through our teams who are combing these transcripts. there's something interesting here from one of the russians in the roonl, this...

Mueller already knows what's in these transcripts, fair to say? >> and a lot more for sure. it can tie in in any number of ways. obviously robert mueller is focused on the general idea that there were meetings with high-level russians and wants to explore what went on in those meetings. so he's going to have documents, he's going to have e-mails, he's going to have phone records. he's going to have a lot of the back and forth communications between the members -- or among the members of this meeting but also other meetings. and jeremy makes a good point. it creates the framework for a conspira...

Trump's junior reaction. he was trushingly disappointed according to these transcripts after rlgsiealizing that the russians didn't have much to offer. the democrats say that's not the end of the story. there's a lot we don't know. in particular, what we don't know is exactly what donald trump knew and when he knew it. candidate trump i'm talking about. now his son is saying clearly i did not discuss this meeting with my father. now that's very interesting because while he wasn't under oath in this interview, it's a crime to lie to congress. and democrats point out that right after the meeting...