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What we're seeing now is no matter how extreme it is -- >> there's no daylight. >> no matter how extreme it is, they are, to your point, they are then also saying we've got to back him no matter what. >> to a certain extent they're fully integrated with the president. i've said this before, sean hannity, he's the second or third most powerful man in the country right now. he has the president's ear on a regular basis. bill shine is sitting in the white house. trump has pulled a significant part of his administration off the airways from there. i think, you know, there is -- there's a lot less ...

It's becoming like a circular firing squad. we're looking into this, weave noticed there are some people on fox, aka conservative media, if that's what they want to be called, who also criticized trump's putin embrace this week, or at least quoted other conservatives who did that. >> this was the time and the place for the president to look putin squarely in the eye and said you will be punished for what you did in 2016. >> but he didn't. that's what made it disgusting, that's what made his performance disgusting. >> when newt gingrich, when mat shlap say the president fell short and made our ...

Impressed by that at all. but i think that's somewhat problematic. and you've got to think about our allies. i just think they're going to be freaking out a little bit. >> do you want to close us out on a final depressing note of any kind? >> i think it's a really important time for congress to step up and to keep the pressure on donald trump. what tends to happen is that he gets a news cycle where he's gone too far, crossed a line, and then everything goes back to normal. this is not normal. >> right. mara gay, sam seder, and julius krein, thank you very much. coming up, backlash on the thi...

Monumentally stupid. julius krien, welcome to meet press. you're splitting with him on character, obviously not on policy. he get you back? >> no. and the reason is because even though they were always directionally correct in some of the policies like trade, et cetera, in their pop later and i believe they're actually being good policies, but they never had any clue on how to go about it. and when they had a chance zo it they did the wrong things on healthcare and etsds. that's been the problem from the beginning. if you want to do things like trade vur to have allies 4r0e67b9 and in the busi...

A huge majority in all three states say donald trump's conduct as president makes them feel embarrassed rather than proud. look at those numbers. 63, 64, 64. that's a lot of trump voters in there. julius, i want to give you the first shot out of here and ask you specifically about the bannon exit. does that add to your concern that this presidency is over, as bannon told "the weekly standard"? >> i've always been fairly critical of steve bannon. even though he was directionally correct on some of the policy its, he had no idea how to do it and only made it worse. so i think he should have been...