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Indefensible. inexcusable. it's quite clear what it was. everybody knows what it was. >> you are right about debbie wasserman schultz. she did an interview saying she and the president never lied about anything. i want to bring you to the blame game, leslie. some are blaming republicans for the entire obama care mess. i'm seeing chris laugh. is that laughable? >> honestly, i don't feel the president is to blame. i don't feel republicans are to blame. i don't feel democrats are to blame. i don't think it's a political party to blame. i think clearly it's the people who designed the website to b...