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Meeting with a foreign government, knowing that he s going to be coming in as the national security adviser in the new administration, it s just breathtaking. it s a stunning and i would say that it s the latest breathtaking thing with mike flynn. this is not the first time where we have all said, wow, it s kind of an unbelievable piece of this broader story relating to flynn at this point. and raises questions about the president s judgment. to your point, eugene, he brings in the best people. and we have pressed sarah sanders on this repeatedly. the fact that this is all coming out does raise questions about the people in his inner circle. absolutely. and the idea that the people are no longer affiliated with the campaign or the white house is irrell vanlt evant to these peo. if you think back on the previous questions with the trump junior meeting with the russian lawyer, we first thought it was just those two and find out that very rarely are things happening between one or t ....
Navigator, that does business with this russian energy giant. he probably makes more money from shipping gas for russia than he does as commerce secretary when he goes to negotiate trade agreements. what are we supposed to make of all this? they all lie about russia? that s the thing. he has the attorney general got caught again. none of them can fill out a disclosure form. donald trump himself lied. in fact, drafted the lie on air force one about the don junior meeting in the office. yeah. this is like a painting where every single point seems small but it creates a picture. what s astonishing is just the ubiquity of the ties at every level of the trump campaign whether it was carter page, george papadopoulos, former national security adviser, michael flynn. you mentioned jeff sessions. ....
Which is simply deny ability. so if she has not already said this, she will be soon. you ll start hearing words out of moscow like american russia afoebs. you ll hear things like cold war approach. you will hear things like fantasy. this is the russians will look at all this and say this is completely made up. there s no proof here whatsoever regardless whether it s the trump junior meeting or papadopoulos. they ve got it deny ability which they know plays very well in places like the united states where we say we do need to hear both sides of the argument. they take that to the bank every single time and they re really good at it. we have that deny ability coming from the white house. true. but i mean, we ve seen the evidence today. we ve seen the statements from papadopoulos. we ve read the indictments. i think it s hard at this point to deny that they add least had ....
Me that he was up to something bad, this kid. and i think whatever the fbi has determined will be his punishment is a fitting punishment. if you re counting on him to provide some kind of evidence if he s so bad why didn t you blow the whistle on them and say check into this papadopoulos? i don t know the answer to that. you find your answer in don junior. what did he say? i get that. same solicitation, awesome. i want to meet with them. and don junior approached chris, hold on one second. he approached it the same way that the 27-year-old naive kid did and said that s a meeting we should have and paul manafort and others showed up because he was the son of a candidate. it was a meeting that shouldn t have happened and devolved quickly and everybody left. it s been revealed in e-mails and all the document production that s necessary for these investigations, and we ll get to the bottom of it. i think that the don junior meeting needs to be looked into, ....
Russiaphobes. you ll hear things like cold war approach. you will hear things like fantasy. this is the russians will look at all this and say this is completely made up. there s no proof here whatsoever regardless whether it s the trump junior meeting or papadopoulos. they ve got this deniability, which they know plays very well in places like the united states where we say we do need to hear both sides of the argument. let s give everybody the benefit of the doubt here. we re not sure what happened. they take that to the bank every single time and they re really good at it. we have that deniability coming from the white house. true. but i mean, we ve seen the evidence today. we ve seen the statements from papadopoulos. we ve read the indictments. i think it s hard at this point to deny that they at least had the interest and attempted to get information from the russians and were willing participants in that conversation. papadopoulos himself has actually admitted to it. i don ....