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Same time it's not manufactured or something out there to delay. that's usually somewhat of a kind of a trite way to analyze it. because the reality is the lawyer has duty eye, duty to the client and to protect the client, zealously protect the client. and if he believes in good faith this was joint, meaning they were discussing the defense or the joint defense, then he has to assert it. >> okay. so protecting his client. let's also remember when the news broke about this whole trump tower meaning, some months hag, you remember don junior put out this statement claiming the meeting was initial...

I got his. until what? you think he's going to throw him under the bus? really? you believe that? >> i don't. but then what are the rest of the people in the white house going -- >> that's my frustration. >> i have spoken to people myself to those inside the white house this week that say i hate the way we're handling this, but you have the white house staff and the royal family. >> the royal family first. >> exactly. he's not going to dropkick his own son. here's the issue about it. we talk about drip, drip, drip, this is don junior put into e-mail, i love it. >> i like it, i love it, i want ...

They have banned cameras to white house briefings more than they've allowed cameras to roll during briefing. this is sanders, watch this. >> every single day we do our very best to give you the moe accurate information we have. our goal is to be as transparent as humanly possible. >> weren't you a white house correspondent for a period of time? i was. >> was this transparency? >> no. i listened to that whether you broadcasted it earlier today and i read the e-mail that don junior put in the e-mail. i misunderstood the word transparent, i thought it meant that you were telling the truth and sho...