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Is no longer a fight. they support the affordable care act. they don't want to see an attack on preexisting conditions and the fact that president trump is not defending preexisting condition protections against this g.o.p. lawsuit is a big deal to voters. and the fact that we're going to possibly see premiums rise because of the junk plans that the trump administration has reintroduced. >> dana: than, i thought today there are republicans running on repealing and replacing obamacare. >> sure, basically, i mean, speaking as a physician who was also in congress, and, in fact, in our election it...

Basic idea make obamacare work. is that all of the underinsured and noninsurance had to be forced into the exchange to make the restful work. the population resisted that. and not someone has to clean up the mess. and that is exactly what the president is trying to do by trying to create these alternatives with choices that would allow some of those sicily people to say, i did not like obamacare but i have a choice now. a plan that suites me. >> with visible junk plans? >> that is the less that the study one health insurance everyone must have and when it must cover. we hear a lot about these ...

>> yes the executive order will be much less durable because it directs agencies to develop rules that will inevitably be challenged. and employees assess these on a long time horizon. >> this charms and junk plans are ones that do not fit the obamacare model, that includes the one that we are in, that is one that more than 100 million americans are in. employer-sponsored coverage that is exempt from much of obamacare. junk plans actually means freedom to lower cost and more choices. >> the solution i think is that ultimately, if you want to get payment back congress can appropriated and the c...

Money for these subsidies. yes, it does, jeffrey. a federal court ruled it saw unconstitutional. what donald trump did was for the congress to authorize his money. >> until you're somebody today who is trying to actually afford not a bronze plan, but maybe even a silver plan, and now your premiums are going to up expo now and thentially. >> you act like it's happening all of a sudden today. >> the most amazing part about this, he's reintroducing junk plans into the system. you're going to have plans that don't cover maternity leave or the basic fundamentals. >> this is still part of the the ov...

Plan and now your premiums are going up exponentially. the most amazing part of that -- >> it's already happening. don't act like it's happening all of a sudden today. >> it's going to go up exponentially. the most amazing part about this, he's reintroducing junk plans into the system. you're going to have plans that don't cover maternity leave. you're going to have plans that don't cover the basic -- >> what he did today is not doing that. >> it does. >> no. this is part of the overall problem with obamacare that congress certainly needs to fix. but what happened today is not any of what you'...