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Might be watching and says, i'm having issues with my husband and how do i resolve that. that's what i'm tuning in for, is this show, what everyday life looks like. >> let me push back a little bit and suggest that maybe part of what goes on is that actually people don't identify, and they would prefer to say, man, whatever problems i have, they are not those problems. and whatever challenges i have in dealing with them, at least i'm not dealing with them like that. part of my concern is that to the extent that you and other people are actual real human beings, you're not actresses portraying ...

Across? >> i think as a defense attorney as it relates to each and every witness, you start off with a game plan. you start off with i'm going to go this way, i'm not going to be difficult, i'm going to be difficult. if they give me a hard time, i'm going to try to keep my cool. but we are talking about a murder trial here. we do have a man's life on the line. and i think what really went on is i think he intended to start off being not necessarily nice, because that's not his job, and you know what? it is his job to be somewhat tough on her. and it is his job to try to catch her in lies and m...

They may not be sure what to make of rachel jeantel. but they believe trayvon martin was followed, was pursued by zimmerman, and whatever else after that came about because george zimmerman ignored the dispatcher and went looking for this guy. >> because of the focus on jeantel, i want to play just a little bit of sound from it. let's take a look at this exchange with the defense attorney. >> of course, you don't know if he was telling you the truth or not. >> why you need to lie about that, sir? >> maybe if he decided to assault george zimmerman, he didn't want you to know about it? >> that's...

As it relates to each and every witness, you start off with a game plan. you start off with i'm going to go this way, i'm not going to be difficult, i'm going to be difficult. if they give me a hard time, i'm going to try to keep my cool. but we are talking about a murder trial here. we do have a man's life on the line. and i think what really went on is i think he intended to start off being not necessarily nice, because that's not his job, and you know what? it is his job to be somewhat tough on her. and it is his job to try to catch her in lies and make her probably make mistakes on jury st...

It? >> that's absolutely retarded, sir. >> i'm sorry? >> that's really retarded to do that, sir. >> dana, there are some people who criticized don west for being really tough in rachel jeantel on how he questioned her. how tough to go given the age of the person on the witness stand and given the way that you as the attorney, as well as the person on the stand has to come across? >> i think as a defense attorney as it relates to each and every witness, you start off with a game plan. you start off with i'm going to go this way, i'm not going to be difficult, i'm going to be difficult. if they ...