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And the planted story in the "the washington post," which is very humerus, everybody should go to the "the washington post" web site and read it, because this was directly planted by the white house. that through -- threw rum bler -- ruemmler under the bus. didn't item them it's their fault. he has to fire these people after the memorial day weekend. they have to go next wk. i think maybe they will but i wanted to get your feeling on it. >> i think they will too soomp -- super or later. why aren't we seeing them appear in front of congress. >> believe me they will. they will call them nextuyí...

Ago. it's clear ms. ruemmler and mr. mead must testify in front of congress and white house chief of staff mcdonough must as well. the country needs their sworn testimony. especially after lois lerner who oversaw the irs abuse took the fifth yesterday.irs story just begino surface. that's the memo. top story tonight, two opposing views of the situation. first up from los angeles ben stein. and you say? >> oh i say that something is clearly wrong here. we don't have a top irs official taking the fifth amendment if there is no likelihood that a crime was committed. why bother inducting privilege...

Definitely. that president obama is not holding anyone accountable. that's absolutely true. and he should be scolded for that because lois leisurer should have been suspended immediately. you agree with me on that. >> absolutely. >> as soon as she took the fifth amendment she is out. out. suspended, gone, figure out what the hell you did, lady. mr. obama didn't do it. clearly he is responsible for that also, if it's true chief counsel ms. ruemmler and his chief guy in the white house, mr. mcdonough, kept vital information from the president, they got to be fired. they have to go. >> absolutely...

There is people doing abortions all over the place. and he was singled out, i believe, because he was african-american. >> bill: really, you think the commonwealth of pennsylvania went after him because he was comern. >> i don't think so much experience. i think it was because of the community that he served was a poor urban community. >> bill: they don't like that community in the commonwealth doesn't like that community? so they are going to get people in there. >> if you think there is no racism in the criminal justice system you are a fool. >> bill: i might be a fool because i always go on...