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Bigger nuclear button. he says those insults were by design. listen to what he told sean hannity -- >> i think without the rhetoric we wouldn't have been here. i believe that. we did sanctions and of the things you would do. other administrations -- i don't want to get specific on that -- butad a p silence. if they saidhing very bad, threatening and horrible, just don't answer. that's not the answer. that's not what you have to do. i think the rhetoric, i hate to do it, sometimes i felt foolish doing it. but we had no choice. >> sometimes he felt foolish. joining us via skype tocuss the summit...

Take a look. >> this goes to the beginning. there were lots of people, critics, quickly saying when you said little rocket man or fire and fury, or, when he said, i have a red button on my desk, he said, my it's bigger and it s better than yours. how did it evolve from that, to this? because he did say from the very beginning, we are basically going to start over. that has been building behind the scenes. >> without the rhetoric wee wouldn't have been here, i really believe that. we did sanctions and all the things that we would do but i think without the rhetoric, other administrations, i don...

If they said something very bad and very threatening and horrible, just don't answer. that's not the answer. that's not what you have to do. so i think the rhetoric -- i hate to do it, but sometimes i felt foolish doing it but we had no choice. >> sandra: i hear you laughing, marie, because he's referencing back to the administration for which you work that didn't get kim to the table. >> democratic and republican administrations have failed with north korea. i like the idea of trying something new and i like the idea of sitting down diplomatically. i'm a little concerned that president trump ...

Summit. as a matter fact, the president talked about in the sean hannity interview. he said in the past when north korea did something ative, american presidents were too silent. het was the wrong way to pretty is that sometimes he felt a little foolish going over the top with this stuff but he wanted to get to a place where they felt ft they hado talk. aura: hannity asked about the rhetoric. let's watch. >> well, i think without the rhetoric, we wo't have been here. i really believe that. we did sanctions and all the things he would. without the rhetoric, other administration, i don't want to...

Recognized is that kind of provocative talk leadd to thein summit. s the present even talked about that in the hannity interview. he said in the past they were too silent, and he said sometimes he felt a little foolish going over the top of some of this stuff. but he wanted to get to a place where he and the north koreans feltle they had to talk. i really did believe we did sanctions and all of the things we did.th but i think without the rhetoric, other administrations, i don't want to get specific on that. but they had a policy of silence. if they said something very bads frightening and hor...