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Relations. let me start with you. you have written a lot about this. what is your interpretation of the sort of humanitarian justification for what we did? it is so striking for me how much we talk about humanitarian war reasons going back to the reentrance into iraq because the yazidis were stuck and now we've got 5,000 troops in iraq. what do you make of this? >> every president when they go to war provide a buffet of justification objectives. most are articulated with such lack of specificity that you cannot validate whether they succeeded. humanitarian reasons are the most motive. what sho...

>> hillary clinton at event in houston. she referenced his proposed travel ban to ban all refugees. joining us is a.m. joy and mika zenko who's the senior fellow at the council on foreign relations. let me start with you. you have written a lot about this. what is your interpretation of the sort of humanitarian justification for what we did? it is so striking for me how much we talk about humanitarian war reasons going back to the reentrance into iraq because the yazidis were stuck and now we've got 5,000 troops in iraq. what do you make of this? >> every president when they go to war provide ...