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Brought out consultants and folks working on this. this person has been doing this for many years. they can't even do focus groups anymore the way they used to, where you put republicans and democrats in chairs across from each other because the rhetoric immediately gets so heated, they just start fighting with each other. >> oh, my gosh, that's horrible. >> they've had to split it up and do it individually because the vitreal is so high. k katty's point about the cell phones is right. and members of congress are suddenly feeling very insecure. karen handel had somebody mail white powder to he...

K katty, am i overly optimistic? >> i'm concerned about the growing income -- a shift in this american sense that you can get ahead. because when people start realizing that the top 1% of the population are now taking home 25% of the gdp and only 20 years ago it was 8%, they're going to start wondering, can i get ahead? can i get a slice of that pie because that pie available for me is shrinking so fast. >> and katty, by the way, in the piece we were talking about in politico, that was my concern at the end of the piece. can we rectify if we have a president and congress that will pass tax ref...