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Your colleagues is talking that way, it can't be good for you. >> no. you have to wonder how far they can push this fairly bogus argument that they are members of this secret never trump ka ball. this is a guy who has honorable and courageous service in the military. he is a serious person. and it reflects terribly on guys like ron johnson to try to attack their integrity and attack their history and ascribe for them. i missed him at the never trump meetings. but this is a guy who has seen something and as have many, many other witnesses now. and it requires the structure that says every singl...

And/or go against their character. but i think that that's why these hearings are important and i want the american people to judge for themselves, listen to a 33-year person of the state department who served on the democrats and the republicans and listen to what's happening to her and the assault that's being put on her by the current president and then listen to ambassador taylor and all that he has talked about and this shadow government led by rudy giuliani, topped by the president himself and you're seeing that more and more the testimony that came out yesterday, they're connecting dire...

As you see, he kind of melts down. >> let me ask also about another part of the book getting a lot of press. the people involved in the hillary clinton email investigation. i think people have forgotten that there was this element within the fbi that was no fan of the clintons. and you write that. over six months into the investigation, nothing emerged to show clinton knew confidential information had been conveyed on an insecure server. that didn't stop fbi officials from encouraging team members to bring clinton down. >> they even used stronger language in some cases. trump has managed to sh...