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These are people who are worried about the direction of the government. these are people who are taking risks to talk to the media because they think these things need to be exposed. i have to say in an administration that has expressed so much distaste for the press and so much distaste for our role, are you surprised that some of the people who want to criticize the administration want to do it without their names attached? i'm not. i think that you'll see more use of anonymous sources. i think we have to be careful. i think it's got to be on the most important stories but they are important...

Foreign policy would be enough to make this a problem, right? it would be enough to ignite suspicions and re-crim nations worldwide maybe american troops weren't there to help, that maybe american foreign policy is designed to steal oil from other countries, that the american military is being used as essentially a capitalist tool, as a looting tool, as a pillaging tool to steal the natural resources from other countries. having an oil company ceo in charge of our foreign policy is enough to create those worries. you're not hitting at it anymore. when the president says, yes, that's our policy...

It was a pure party line vote. senator marco rubio, florida, soaked up a bunch of good press about his hypothetical courage and his hypothetical non-partisan patriotism when he said that he might vote against the exxon ceo to be secretary of state because he had real concerns. but, of course, naturally marco rubio cast a yes vote for the exxon ceo. the vote was a party line vote, and the exxon ceo, rex tillerson, now has no barrier to being approved for that position. his vote -- his nomination will pass on the floor as well. simply putting an oil company ceo in charge of american foreign poli...

Rubio cast a yes vote for the exxon ceo. the vote was a party line vote, and the exxon ceo, rex tillerson, now has no barrier to being approved for that position. his vote -- his nomination will pass on the floor as well. simply putting an oil company ceo in charge of american foreign policy would be enough to make this a problem, right? it would be enough to ignite suspicions and re-crim nations worldwide maybe american troops weren't there to help, that maybe american foreign policy is designed to steal oil from other countries, that the american military is being used as essentially a capit...

Everything he said about his hillary clinton and about you know the integrity of government? >> i think that, if the exact sort of thing that newt gingrich would say, i don't think it's anything that this administration would do. and if his kids, who are going to be his closest advisers and are going to be de facto members of the administration within the white house, whether they're given some sort of formal title and they get around nepotism laws or not, if they do anything seriously wrong, it will cause the president-elect a problem. and -- and especially as you head into the next election ...