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The power to pardon criminals. the larger question is, why would a president, who hasn't even taken office yet, be surrounded by people thinking about pardoning criminals in his own administration? joining me now with a lot of late-breaking news is jud legume who authored that think tank report on the kuwait officials. and norm who's been speaking out on a lot of these issues. we have so much i'm going to get to, jud, your story. but norm, starting with these other reports here, the trump transition is saying, well, we didn't get behind this. but i'm holding in my hand and we can put on the sc...

>> is that a problem for donald trump and his family, to have business dealings overseas? >> yes. yes. that is going to be -- >> it seems like something they do have and will have. >> this is something they're going to have to unravel. apparently they are looking at it. it is something that -- boy scouts on this, my great grandfather, herbert hoover got every gift he received back to the government, before that was even legislated before they had to by law. that is the law. so there is a lot that's going to have to be unraveled and worked out on the trump team. but when it comes to rudy, i don...

-- sirius xm host, trump supporter jeffrey. democratic strategist. margaret, what about these giuliani ties? lot of people have business ties around the world. is it a problem? >> i have a hard time with the apples to apples comparison with the clintons. i mean, the hit against hillary clinton, which is running for president is that as secretary of state, her husband was taking donations for their family foundation from foreign governments, okay? i think that is a clear conflict of interest. it's clearly problematic. it would be problematic if rudy, as secretary of state, were somehow continui...

After 9/11 he saw here in this country, in new jersey, people celebrating, as the towers came down. no one else has been able to see that. that was not -- people have gone back -- >> that didn't happen, right? >> people have gone back to look at newscasts and people have not seen that. >> the police say that didn't happen and all those rumors have been on the internet for some time. so did you misspeak -- >> it did happen. i saw it with my own eyes. george, it did happen. there were people that were cheering on the other side of new jersey where you have large arab populations, they were cheer...

On c nshnn. and so she said that it is not the as widespread as it is made out to be, and jeb bush said it is flatout wrong, and is this a problem she needs to address? >> well with, this is my take. if even one serviceman or woman takes longer than care they de, we have have failed them and the country, and hillary clinton has a 25-year record, and helped to spearhead the bill of rights for making college affordable for returning servicemen, and helped to get the pstd, and helping to bring down the high rate of suicide among the veterans, and the truth is that we have talked to thousands of c...