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Up. they were not in the least bit biased and very open to the question set. i was very happy with the number of touches. i think you do need a strong quarterback. i expect neal will be that tonight but it is great to be a wide receiver on that set and i'm coming >> do you sit around? do you have people on the stage and you're asking questions to them? is that how they did it over there? >> yes, indeed, we've got a lot of people to play a lot of different kant dats. you try out questions and you see if it works. a lot of them are clungers. and i'll add mid this to the world. i had a lot of stu...

And it was -- i was sleepy by the third hour. so i don't really blame any of the kant dats. that's a long time to try to do it. >> exactly. we were thinking thank god we didn't make the fox news debate three hours. >> of course. but if you want to ask everybody questions, they want to make it longer and these guys want to make it shorter. if you're trump and if you're carson, you don't want the debate, you don't need the debate. you're at top of the poll. you're not great at debates, maybe you're happy if you have to object. >> well, that's the question, mark. is it any accident that those two...

And it was -- i was sleepy by the third hour. so i don't really blame any of the kant dats. that's a long time to try to do it. >> exactly. we were thinking thank god we didn't make the fox news debate three hours. >> of course. but if you want to ask everybody questions, they want to make it longer and these guys want to make it shorter. if you're trump and if you're carson, you don't want the debate, you don't need the debate. you're at top of the poll. you're not great at debates, maybe you're happy if you have to object. >> well, that's the question, mark. is it any accident that those two...