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It's a major marker. it's progress. and that's something that we shut look forward to. now, implementation is a separate issue. i hope they can get it right. but the bottom line, this is a big step forward. and i think a bigger thing would be on this medicaid expansion. that is not a bad thing. a three to one match, the first three years and after that, the feds pay 100%. why in god's name these states not taking this on is beyond me. that is a win-win. they can hit obama all day long but for the federal government to pay 100% of your medicaid recipients, that to me sounds like a huge massive ...

Seen a strong backlash coming from people, standing up for women's rights and saying enough is enough. >> right. and looking at it much broader than simply a discussion about choice issues, although that was obviously the anchor. i want to turn to someone that i think everyone loves, which is a hard achievement to reach. and that's kerry washington. very popular i would say with all kinds of women, reerds of "elle" put her on the cover. politically people think "scandal" is a model of a new dawn in washington. why was it important to you to give her the cover? >> well, we really think kerry wa...

I'm not going to say she is a political fixer, but incredibly smart and cape be. the character she is playing is so fascinate to go women because she is actually the most powerful person, even though she is in that character, playing against all kinds of men. and like the apex of power in washington, d.c. and she is the one with the power. and certainly that is something you don't see a lot on television. >> yeah. and i want to ask you the hard question. but is she a feminist, and how? >> well, i leave it up to her to say whether she is a feminist. >> olivia pope. >> o olivia pope? i have to c...

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