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and we re also going to save billions of dollars on going after criminals who commit fraud. a lot of people are saying to me they don t like the idea i m prepared to forgive up to $20,000 if you got a pell grant or $10,000 for anybody who has a student loan during the recession. well, guess what, we pay the so called ppp program, we paid significant i think it s $900 billion. don t hold me to that number, but it s well over 9 for anybody who had a tough time with their business during the pandemic so they could pay employees. but guess what, you may remember, i was running for office at the time, you all may remember it that i had a big fight with the former president. and maybe future president. bless me father. anyway, all kidding aside, and here s the deal, what happened was the folks are really going after me for trying to, and by the way, 90% of all debt forgiveness for student loans will go to, under my plan, 90% will go to families making under $75,000 a year. ....
Now listen to this. the kids inside those detention facilities. okay, julia. the president ran on this. they have been talking about implementing this for a little while, according to the reporting and then finally, they pulled the trigger. you look at john kelly talking to cnn a year ago, talking about doing this. if they were intending to do this eventually, was anybody behind the scenes talking about how to prepare for it, to make sure that they could do this in a humane way, if that s what they intended to do? so, katkaty, you re right, t were talking about this from the material days of the trump administration. as i reported, there was a leaked draft document i got just in the early february of 2017 that laid out a list of ways to deter asylum seekers. that is exactly the opposite of ....
Interests. while, as far as we can tell, they ve respected the agreement itself. so, you know, we ve had this kind of thing before. in the reagan administration. the reagan administration concluded some pretty important arms agreements with the soviets that did not stop reagan from labeling them the evil empire. we should have taken a page from that book. and the other thing, katkaty, we got to remember. this agreement is not iran s plan a. it s plan b. plan a. was to have the negotiations fail and the u.s. blamed for it. so what president trump is doing is, as he calls into question whether or not we re going to remain committed, is gishing them a second chance to get their plan a., because if we pull out of this, then the whole sanctions regime is going to collapse. iran is focused today, yesterday north korea but today, madeleine albright responded to donald trump ....