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Trying to come up with an alternative story here. which we saw over the weekend with the twitter storm suggesting it was a case of mistaken identity. i think there's a difference between the clarence thomas moment and what strikes me is that in that case it really was a question of just putting the individual including clarence thomas, from the committee and having him testify. where is here, you really see an effort to reach for an alternative explanation for what might have happened. so i do think that there is a difference there and i am interested to see how it plays out.i'm adjusted to se...

It was the last possible time that they could hear from ford but also the date that ford had been telling when they would be willing to come and testify. a thursday hearing really pushes things past the october 1 deadline. which is when mitch mcconnell wanted to have the confirmation for brett kavanaugh and on the court. if they do this monday it would take until the end of the week probably friday night before you could even have a floor vote to confirm. and again, the math on that is clear when you're in a 51/49 senate. kristin: there's so much back-and-forth about whether or not she would t...

Face. kristin: chad pergram, thank you for your expertise. never a done deal. never a sure thing but it looks like we will have a huge hearing on thursday. leland: all right, the political applications obviously go way beyond the confirmation or the lack thereof. her judge kavanaugh to the supreme court. we'll talk about that we are bringing in josh from south carolina. robert from atlanta, josh on the left, robbed on -- robert is on the right. take a listen. >> i was a prosecutor, defense attorney and a judge. for every woman that comes forward regarding an allegation like this, god only know...

That should never happen in this society. so too judge kavanaugh and his wife. the most despicable of death threats as well. this is unacceptable in america today. the courageous keyboard warriors, the need to stop and need to stop now. it's perfectly clear the left is using what is a serious allegation from 36 years ago that has not been proven to use this as a political bludgeoning tool, using it politically. according to a weathered democratic operator is advising professor ford. her attorney is inconsistent to this issue. she went after paula jones. she supported al franken. senator feinst...

Judge kavanaugh would have the ability to listen, not necessarily in the same room, i agree with professor ford's lawyers on that, but he would be in a position to rebut the charges, having heard them. if he hasn't heard them, there is no fairness to the process. i think chairman grassley has already indicated the senate is not going to go along with letting her go second. they are going to do if the standard way, accuser goes first. >> sean: you know, dan as seriousuchng accusation. i also believe we should be hearing from people that have known judge kavanaugh since high school, college, law...