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There about president bush's drinking. kavanaugh has said he's never had a drinking problem but this is all kind of coming full circle. >> i think this is one of the most fascinating threads because we do know that president trump feels very strongly and personally about this issue. in our town hall during the election when he was with his children, they were talking about how their father over and over again said no drugs, no alcohol and they really internalized this as a really important message from him. so i just think it was fascinating as i was watch bein the hearing and kavanaugh's test...

Up, as well. i had one of those conversations just five minutes ago to make sure that the -- that any current credible allegation that has been made is fully investigated. >> of course, what exactly is a real investigation? that is the ultimate question here. democrats are calling for at least two dozen or so witnesses to be interviewed. we don't have a sense of how many interviews the fbi will ultimately conduct, and can they get that done before this friday deadline, which mcconnell is demanding. all huge questions looming as the senate gets back this week, brooke. >> manu, thank you very mu...

Borger. getting complicated. how is it looking? >> very complicated because internally grassley is trying to get a private phone call and he can't even do that. dianne feinstein refuses to participate in this. the committee has to work out what it wants to do. kavanaugh has said he denies it. he will testify in any forum about it. she has her story and she will testify and has taken a polygraph test. i think the question now is of timing as you heard jeff say. i don't believe there is any way this vote happens on thursday at this point. very, very unlikely. what does the president himself have...

Incredibly strong credentials. is very well respected. >> martha: let me just ask you. did the president speak with him personally, mercedes? >> no. the president has not spoken with judge kavanaugh today. as we know judge kavanaugh has been calling several senators. the key is, obviously, as judge kavanaugh has said he was not even aware of who this accuser was before she had identified herself. this is a completely false allegation. and it's incredibly disturbing that senator feinstein would have brought this up at the last minute which, as we know we have gone through four days of lengthy e...

This is delaware senator chris kunz questioning brett kavanaugh. i want to bring harry litman in, an assistant attorney during the clinton administration. this is an interesting conversation they're having about documentary evidence of something that brett kavanaugh said during the investigation into president clinton that he said that he meant in a certain tone and someone else has said, he actually -- this was his position. what do you make of that back and forth? >> well, i think it's a very interesting discussion and kunz now h -- coons has a huge opening, but i don't if he'll take it. jud...