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Politically for both sides if they don't. >> well, absolutely. this puts a lot of pressure on more -- more pressure on senators collins and murkowski. they're going to be confronted with the choice of having to vote yay or nay on a nominee with this allegation against them. they don't know if it's true or not. in addition to that, judge kavanaugh will -- if he's confirmed will join the supreme court and it will be unknown whether he ever did this or not. it's never been investigated. >> shepard: perilous teams. jeanne cummings, thanks so much. coming up, president trump on the ground now in th...

Chair senator grassley going to senator feinstein, the ranking democrat and back and forth and back and forth until all of them interrogate her. then they get to go a second time. then they would do the same thing with judge kavanaugh. then the committee rules provide each side if you will can provide one witness to corroborate the principle. dr. ford could introduce a witness. it could be her husband who was there when she allegedly remoted this repressed memory. it could be the therapist in whose presence this allegedly happened. it could be anybody else vouch for her credibility and judge k...

Latest attack that really isn't a truth-based question, which it should be, it is a political question. so in terms of the mid terms, the american families and specifically the conservative and evangelical base should recognize that having a conservative majority on the supreme court is really what mid terms are all about. and should get out and vote. >> neil: christie, one of the ads i saw, i don't know the group, portrayed this and the latest layer of this as republicans are tone deaf when it comes to women. and that the ad will show that democrats have tried to get them to be less so and th...

Investigation and interrogate the people that are involved in this. dr. ford, her husband, her therapist, anybody else that has knowledge about this judge kavanaugh the person in the room. >> neil: that could take a while. >> i think they could do it in a couple of weeks. the advantage of that is you prior statement from the witness so you would know what the witness is likely to say when they testify. i don't think judge kavanaugh has the slightest idea nor do we what dr. ford would say if she were to commence her testimony on monday morning without having been interviewed by anybody already....

Neil. if this is a draw at the end of the day? who wins? there is no rules here. is the burden of proving this on dr. ford or is the burden of disproving this on judge kavanaugh? will the very allegation itsself proven or not be enough to dislodge republican votes or will we all say at 5:00 on monday what is the general impression of who was the better witness? who presented the stronger case. there are no rules here. >> neil: she never shows up and let's say democrats wait for an investigation. that's what we want. a full investigation, then what? >> she has done a horrific harm to her reputa...