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It's a cliche at this point. following the second major mass shooting in texas in less than a month, it's what's happen. the united states stands alone among rich countries when it comes to the level of gun violence and death and gun massacres. we're alone when it comes to easy access to gun with a higher rate of civilian gun ownership than any other country. the u.s. civilian population has more than 120 firearms for every 100 residents. yes, the world is watching and likely horrified. joining me now is christopher dickie and christopher will kerrson. thank you for being here. colonel first o...

They talk about the inability of the united states to control this to deal with it in any way. and they just sort of throw up their hands and say well, that's the united states. they also blame trump. but they also see it as a deeper pathology in american society. >> right. ke colonel, even gun reform during the 70s and 80s was about controlling black people and have having them not be armed. it's been racialized. >> look at the murders in police, and the police in chicago who still to this day torture people in their prisons. there's a book out about unc chapel hill historian about this. it's...

Residence there at the u.s. embassy there in paris. we are watching all three of them get ready to face the media. something they never expected to be doing 48 hours ago when they were embarking on this journey together, traveling there to paris. kelly, as i keep you here to join in our coverage of this media availability, i also want to bring in colonel jack jacobs, a man who knows all too well about heroism, having served with dignity in the army. ke colonel, when you talk about what they did, they say it was instant. it's got to be a lot more than that. it's shear bravery. >> it's tremendou...

But then again it's often the case. a lot of parts of the world where dig ta dictators are killing people. it's a question of how much of a reach does the united states have? and where we can move with the friend. . . i personally have given a chons, would rather be in the fact than be the cowboy. i have a simple rule, which will bother a lot of people, when the french are with you, you know you are right. >> interesting rule. ke colonel jack jacobs. you're not convinced. we are leading this. the white house officials are saying, very, very successful. no matter how we try to strategize and sa...